LOW CPU, GPU Load... Low FPS

[DiocampoJ]

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Mayng udto mga ka istorya.

Naa koy sitwasyon as stated in this Thread´s title.

Scenario goes like this:
Nag padagan kog Autocad Plant 3D 2018. Then gi open nako ang tbuok site sa project (whole building). Medyo dako2 jd siya nga file. Nya karon kay akong fps kay naa around sa 10-15fps.
CPU load ranges: 5% - 15%
GPU load ranges: 5%-20%

Specs:
Intel i7-7700
GTX 1050
h110m mobo
Kingston 2x8GB 2133mhz
1TB Seagate HDD

oddly, I am getting similar fps rate from this different pc:

Specs:
intel i5-4460
GTX 630
1x4GB 1866mhz
500GB HDD

asa kaha ko dapita na sayop ug nagkuwang?
Englighten me mga ka istorya.

Jon

[tabs14]

pag ssd para sa imung autocad..

depende sa imung application

i7 ug i3 parehas rag peformances sa autocad

from tomshardware

Depends entirely on what you're doing. If you only ever do modeling, you may be better off with the 7700k, but you also need to consider the type of modeling. If you tend to do low part-count, but with very complex part geometry, a 7700k will be about 20% faster than a 1700 due to the ipc and clock speed. However, in these situations an i5-7600k will be just as fast as the i7 and significantly cheaper. If you tend to have fairly complex assemblies with lots of parts, the Ryzen 7 1700 should be roughly 10% faster in those workloads. (interestingly, because even in assemblies neither Autocad or Solidworks scale that well across large core counts, the Ryzen 5 1600 will also be 10% faster than the 7700k in these workloads)
now, if you do any other computationally intensive workloads in cad, such as simulations or especially rendering, you should absolutely go with Ryzen. Those workloads scale almost completely linearly up to 16+ threads (rendering scales nearly infinitely) and the Ryzen 7 1700 should comfortably be 75-85% faster than the 7700k. The 1600 in this case would be about 40% faster than the 7700k.
Tl,dr:
If you only ever do straight modeling and don't work with complex assemblies, get an i5 6700k
If you do a lot of rendering and simulation, get the Ryzen 7 1700.
If you do a mix of both and want something really solid all-round and also want to save a good chunk of money,
the six-core 12-thread Ryzen 5 1600 is a fantastic cpu for your application and only £185. It's what I recommend most people
for mixed cad applications.
Another interesting last option to consider is this: if you *only* do modeling and never do anything else, no rendering no simulations no multitasking, the i3 7350k is the exact same architecture and has the same overclocking performance as the 6700k and 7700k, and is under £180. however, it only has two cores so multitasking will be poor, and it will be appalling in comparison to the other cpus in any multi-threaded workload.
-Joe.
ps. I'm based in the Uk too so this is all based off uk pricing, and my numbers (while fairly approximate) are all from direct experience of co-workers and friends using these parts for cad purposes. All numbers above assume that the intel cpus are overclocked to ~4.8ghz and the Amd cpus are overclocked to ~3.9. The non-X Amd cpus come with a solid cooler and can hit 3.9 fairly easily on that, but the intel stock cooler is garbage and should be replaced if you want to do any overclocking, so factor in an extra £30 for a decent cooler on the Intel side.

[kennzakki]

Mayng udto mga ka istorya.

Naa koy sitwasyon as stated in this Thread´s title.

Scenario goes like this:
Nag padagan kog Autocad Plant 3D 2018. Then gi open nako ang tbuok site sa project (whole building). Medyo dako2 jd siya nga file. Nya karon kay akong fps kay naa around sa 10-15fps.
CPU load ranges: 5% - 15%
GPU load ranges: 5%-20%

Specs:
Intel i7-7700
GTX 1050
h110m mobo
Kingston 2x8GB 2133mhz
1TB Seagate HDD

oddly, I am getting similar fps rate from this different pc:

Specs:
intel i5-4460
GTX 630
1x4GB 1866mhz
500GB HDD

asa kaha ko dapita na sayop ug nagkuwang?
Englighten me mga ka istorya.

Jon

do you by any chance have the same file on another location? if so icopy daw to na file then try again, idelete imong existing file. ive had the same issue before, g.open nako sa PC sa akong mga kaila pero same issue, g.copy nako ang back up file sa akong ext. drive then tried again, ni work siya. cant promise you anything but it did work sa akong situation. until now wa pako kabaw unsay blema ato nuon so d kl kahatag nmug reason wa nalang nako gtry ug diagnose kay pagka.okay na, okay napd ko hehe mayta ma.okay pd na imo.

[DiocampoJ]

do you by any chance have the same file on another location? if so icopy daw to na file then try again, idelete imong existing file. ive had the same issue before, g.open nako sa PC sa akong mga kaila pero same issue, g.copy nako ang back up file sa akong ext. drive then tried again, ni work siya. cant promise you anything but it did work sa akong situation. until now wa pako kabaw unsay blema ato nuon so d kl kahatag nmug reason wa nalang nako gtry ug diagnose kay pagka.okay na, okay napd ko hehe mayta ma.okay pd na imo.

Hello, Yes the file is opened from my harddisk, particularly sa desktop, not through a network. Thank you sa response!

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pag ssd para sa imung autocad..

depende sa imung application

i7 ug i3 parehas rag peformances sa autocad

from tomshardware

Depends entirely on what you're doing. If you only ever do modeling, you may be better off with the 7700k, but you also need to consider the type of modeling. If you tend to do low part-count, but with very complex part geometry, a 7700k will be about 20% faster than a 1700 due to the ipc and clock speed. However, in these situations an i5-7600k will be just as fast as the i7 and significantly cheaper. If you tend to have fairly complex assemblies with lots of parts, the Ryzen 7 1700 should be roughly 10% faster in those workloads. (interestingly, because even in assemblies neither Autocad or Solidworks scale that well across large core counts, the Ryzen 5 1600 will also be 10% faster than the 7700k in these workloads)
now, if you do any other computationally intensive workloads in cad, such as simulations or especially rendering, you should absolutely go with Ryzen. Those workloads scale almost completely linearly up to 16+ threads (rendering scales nearly infinitely) and the Ryzen 7 1700 should comfortably be 75-85% faster than the 7700k. The 1600 in this case would be about 40% faster than the 7700k.
Tl,dr:
If you only ever do straight modeling and don't work with complex assemblies, get an i5 6700k
If you do a lot of rendering and simulation, get the Ryzen 7 1700.
If you do a mix of both and want something really solid all-round and also want to save a good chunk of money,
the six-core 12-thread Ryzen 5 1600 is a fantastic cpu for your application and only £185. It's what I recommend most people
for mixed cad applications.
Another interesting last option to consider is this: if you *only* do modeling and never do anything else, no rendering no simulations no multitasking, the i3 7350k is the exact same architecture and has the same overclocking performance as the 6700k and 7700k, and is under £180. however, it only has two cores so multitasking will be poor, and it will be appalling in comparison to the other cpus in any multi-threaded workload.
-Joe.
ps. I'm based in the Uk too so this is all based off uk pricing, and my numbers (while fairly approximate) are all from direct experience of co-workers and friends using these parts for cad purposes. All numbers above assume that the intel cpus are overclocked to ~4.8ghz and the Amd cpus are overclocked to ~3.9. The non-X Amd cpus come with a solid cooler and can hit 3.9 fairly easily on that, but the intel stock cooler is garbage and should be replaced if you want to do any overclocking, so factor in an extra £30 for a decent cooler on the Intel side.

boiii, so much information haha. Daan pako nga naa juy something ani nga build. So I better go off with 7700k? Sa SSD nga part, d ko ka picture-out pa unsa ang fps boost kung mag change ko ani. Then unsay ma recommend nmo nga Videocard ?
Thanks

[tabs14]

Hello, Yes the file is opened from my harddisk, particularly sa desktop, not through a network. Thank you sa response!

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boiii, so much information haha. Daan pako nga naa juy something ani nga build. So I better go off with 7700k? Sa SSD nga part, d ko ka picture-out pa unsa ang fps boost kung mag change ko ani. Then unsay ma recommend nmo nga Videocard ?
Thanks

pag 8th gen sa imung cpu kon mag intel ka
kon mag ryzen huwat sa second batch
sa gpu murag wla kay pwerting saka sa presyo

[hybrid666]

Bai have you, by any chance, used your CPU in another program? Kay I read a post from another online forum nga he had a defective 7700k. Whatever program iya gamiton, it never goes beyond 30% load kay according daw sa rma report, nag thermal throttle iya CPU (bisag 40C ra ang temps). Turned out to be a defective processor.

[21guns]

Add Ram 4GB if your running 64bit bottleneck na go for 8GB an up
SSD main for OS then big files on normal HD