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  1. #11

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    wa ko kasabot sa imong point bro..

    pero tan-aw nimo, unsa man jud?

    sooner or later, fish will evolve some kind of mind.. what's the difference between eating fish and say eating your dog? parehas ra man na sila animal..

    kita na ka gi-unsa pagpatay sa mga chickens in a poultry processing facility?
    what's the difference between eating fish and say eating your dog?
    --- thats because you loose the senses. What is good and what is bad. I recall my neighbour slaughter a dog, the day after, the refrigerator have some kind of worms moving around... so you like that? go ahead, korea butchers dog everyday... china eat rats or everything that moves ingon nila... then why not? loose your senses ba? hmmmm.....

    sooner or later, fish will evolve some kind of mind..
    --- dolphin call each other by name...
    --- this is the danger of evolution, you loose your senses in the end.

    kita na ka gi-unsa pagpatay sa mga chickens in a poultry processing facility?
    --- ducks too i saw it. Do you feel bad or good? then its not our problem... If you think they will evolve later... well your science taught you, its been BILLIONS OF YEARS, yet nobody thinks and feels like human... and yet evolutionists want to become animal again... hahay!

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    how did you know that?

    what about the octopus above showing signs na its learning beyond our normal idea of what animals are.. i wouldn't be surprised if monkeys learned how to use forks and knives..
    young dogs can learn tricks old dogs cant... point is not all monkeys can use and will use forks and knives even if you taught them. They can adapt but they will never change like you... but on the other hand you can be like them... that's no contest..

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    so plants belong to Body only, by your standard of classification?

    hmmm.. nice.. i will do an experiment on this and see what my experiment results will show.. hehe
    hmmm, you told me you experiment things, i havent seen one until now...

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    hmmm, you told me you experiment things, i havent seen one until now...


    yes, i experiment on things kebz.. how am I going to show you, come here and you'll see..

    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    what's the difference between eating fish and say eating your dog?
    --- thats because you loose the senses. What is good and what is bad. I recall my neighbour slaughter a dog, the day after, the refrigerator have some kind of worms moving around... so you like that? go ahead, korea butchers dog everyday... china eat rats or everything that moves ingon nila... then why not? loose your senses ba? hmmmm.....

    sooner or later, fish will evolve some kind of mind..
    --- dolphin call each other by name...
    --- this is the danger of evolution, you loose your senses in the end.

    kita na ka gi-unsa pagpatay sa mga chickens in a poultry processing facility?
    --- ducks too i saw it. Do you feel bad or good? then its not our problem... If you think they will evolve later... well your science taught you, its been BILLIONS OF YEARS, yet nobody thinks and feels like human... and yet evolutionists want to become animal again... hahay!

    huh?! naglibog na jud ko sa imong logic bro..

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    been reading it and it amazes me... nice..


  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by annerhexian View Post
    been reading it and it amazes me... nice..

    thanks for the picture.. here's a youtube video recording.. i think one of the scientists uploaded it.. it's really very amazing!

    YouTube - Coconut-carrying octopus


    and to quote one article:

    "I think these sorts of behaviours are everywhere in nature. There's really complex behaviours that we write off because we think we're the clever ones."

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    I just found this article on the internet.. and was thinking if belief in a god is an evolution of the mind..

    Aussie scientists find coconut-carrying octopus
    By KRISTEN GELINEAU (AP) – 53 minutes ago



    SYDNEY — Australian scientists have discovered an octopus in Indonesia that collects coconut shells for shelter — unusually sophisticated behavior that the researchers believe is the first evidence of tool use in an invertebrate animal.

    The scientists filmed the veined octopus, Amphioctopus marginatus, selecting halved coconut shells from the sea floor, emptying them out, carrying them under their bodies up to 65 feet (20 meters), and assembling two shells together to make a spherical hiding spot.

    Julian Finn and Mark Norman of Museum Victoria in Melbourne observed the odd activity in four of the creatures during a series of dive trips to North Sulawesi and Bali in Indonesia between 1998 and 2008. Their findings were published Tuesday in the journal Current Biology.

    "I was gobsmacked," said Finn, a research biologist at the museum who specializes in cephalopods. "I mean, I've seen a lot of octopuses hiding in shells, but I've never seen one that grabs it up and jogs across the sea floor. I was trying hard not to laugh."

    Octopuses often use foreign objects as shelter. But the scientists found the veined octopus going a step further by preparing the shells, carrying them long distances and reassembling them as shelter elsewhere.

    That's an example of tool use, which has never been recorded in invertebrates before, Finn said.
    "What makes it different from a hermit crab is this octopus collects shells for later use, so when it's transporting it, it's not getting any protection from it," Finn said. "It's that collecting it to use it later that is unusual."

    The findings are significant, in that they reveal just how capable the creatures are of complex behavior, said Simon Robson, associate professor of tropical biology at James Cook University in Townsville.

    "Octopuses have always stood out as appearing to be particularly intelligent invertebrates," Robson said. "They have a fairly well-developed sense of vision and they have a fairly intelligent brain. So I think it shows the behavioral capabilities that these organisms have."



    maybe someday, octopuses will see us humans as God..


    youtube: YouTube - Coconut-carrying octopus
    i also dont see why you relate this to believing in God part... unless you are mocking christians...

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    wa ko kasabot sa imong point bro..

    pero tan-aw nimo, unsa man jud?

    sooner or later, fish will evolve some kind of mind.. what's the difference between eating fish and say eating your dog? parehas ra man na sila animal..

    kita na ka gi-unsa pagpatay sa mga chickens in a poultry processing facility?
    why do you always boast having seen things? karon paka kita ana? kalooy sad nimo oe...

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Ger View Post
    i also dont see why you relate this to believing in God part... unless you are mocking christians...

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    lahi imong pagsabot bro.. aww, do you consider yourself a less intelligent animal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ger View Post
    why do you always boast having seen things? karon paka kita ana? kalooy sad nimo oe...
    huh? boast? wa jud ko nanghambug.. i'm just stating those things.
    one person here consider birds/mammals to have body and soul.. chickens are birds.. so go figure..

    as for me, people who work in the poultry have already accepted the fact that they will be killing chickens.. if you have a problem with that, then don't eat chicken..

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post

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    lahi imong pagsabot bro.. aww, do you consider yourself a less intelligent animal?
    --unsa mn jd diay imong pasabot? christians mga bogo?

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    huh? boast? wa jud ko nanghambug.. i'm just stating those things.
    one person here consider birds/mammals to have body and soul.. chickens are birds.. so go figure..

    as for me, people who work in the poultry have already accepted the fact that they will be killing chickens.. if you have a problem with that, then don't eat chicken..
    --wa ko ka gets nganong imo mi pakit-on ug ihawan sa manok.

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